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Sink migrants' boats - says BNP leader!
09 Jul 2009
Source: Press Association
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Boats carrying migrants from Africa to Europe should be sunk to stop Europe being "swamped by the Third World", British National Party leader Nick Griffin has said.
Mr Griffin, one of two members of the extreme-right party elected to the European Parliament last month, said occupants of sunk boats could be given life rafts to get back to Africa.
Nearly 37,000 immigrants, many from Egypt and Sub-Saharan Africa, arrived in Italy by sea last year from Libya which has become a major staging post.
Mr Griffin said he would back the creation of a ocean-going force to block the Mediterranean route but called for tougher measures to be introduced.
"The only measure, sooner or later, which is going to stop immigration and stop large numbers of sub-Saharan Africans dying on the way to get over here is to get very tough with those coming over.
"Frankly, they need to sink several of those boats," he told BBC Parliament's The Record Europe. "Anyone coming up with measures like that we'll support but anything which is there as a 'oh, we need to do something about it' but in the end doing something about it means bringing them into Europe' we will oppose."
He denied advocating that anyone should be "murdered at sea", telling the BBC: "They can throw them a life raft and they can go back to Libya. But Europe has sooner or later to close its borders or its simply going to be swamped by the Third World."
Mr Griffin also conceded that the BNP had been unable to find enough extremist allies to create a "group" in the European Parliament, where he will take his seat next week.
The decision of Italy's Lega Nord to join the Europe of Freedom and Democracy group led by Britain's UK Independence Party effectively ended efforts to find the necessary 25 MEPs from seven different member states.
"No one was prepared to commit themselves knowing that we had not got Lega Nord on board," he said. "Even so, we will continue to work together with these other groups and share ideas."
I wonder, does Griffen and the BNP belie
I wonder, does Griffen and the BNP believe in political assasinations???????
If he does, any one want to lend me a rifle?? :-)
Can't help but smile at our very own BNP
Can't help but smile at our very own BNP, convicted racist MEP, is now showing disloyalty to Great Britain by sidelining us for Italian extremism.
How could you Nick?
Actually David I though of that to only I couldn't spell Samsonite!
Nor me pooter, nor me.... is that wright
Nor me pooter, nor me.... is that wright then??? :-)
Wibble
Wibble
giving a man a suitcase to carry water i
giving a man a suitcase to carry water in??? Whats wrong with that... those Samsonite cases are water tight and tough too.... bloody good idea actually if you havent got a bucket.... :-)
If Nick Griffin wishes to sink the boats
If Nick Griffin wishes to sink the boats to stop illegal trafficing of people then thats fine because nobody should make money out of the missery of others however if he is suggesting he sinks the ships while occupied then i'm shocked and discusted that this man is a Euro MP.
Life rafts to get back to Africa, Jesus
Life rafts to get back to Africa, Jesus save us, and hears me thinking this one could not get any lower, and now he manarges to limbo under a snakes belly. I have never heard anything so thourghtless in all my life. It a wounder he did'nt go there himself dump them back in the Med and shout " Africas that way, you'll do it in 3 days useige the frount cral," the mans just sick.
I wonder if we might just manage to pers
I wonder if we might just manage to persuade a few councillors to go on one of these boats Griffen's going on about - just so they can see the extent of the problem for themselves. A sort of freebie 'Fact Finding Mediterranean Cruise'. I mean, many of them are happy to give up their time do attend these conferences held in sunnier climes already so I'm sure they'd be no shortage of particularly, Labour councillors.
And I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem convincing the public that they should indeed go as guests of us ratepayers.
Biggles...Silly they wouldnt be in water
Biggles...Silly they wouldnt be in water the boats would be sunk where they were kept.
Mike,isnt trafficking wrong whatever they traffic.You wouldnt say about a drug trafficker,deal with the cause not the affect.Youd take his drugs and lock him up.Same for the boat traffickers then surely
Now that might make a sort of perverted
Now that might make a sort of perverted sense, but he's reported that "He denied advocating that anyone should be “murdered at seaâ€, telling the BBC: “They can throw them a life raft and they can go back to Libya." No need for a liferaft if he wasn't advocating sinking them at sea.
Good point Biggles but surely griffin wo
Good point Biggles but surely griffin would make sure there were a few punctures before he handed them out wouldn't he?
I often think people underestimate Griffin.
Yeah, he'd probably give them a bike pum
Yeah, he'd probably give them a bike pump as well, just for a laugh.
I will always say deal with the cause an
I will always say deal with the cause and not the effect.
if you put 75% in to dealing with the causes of the problem and 25% in dealing with the effect you could sort it out.
Drug dealers are arrested at sea, they are arrested or whatever the maritime version is, and then the drugs are destroyed. Just the same as in the UK the only step which is different is that at sea they don't generally hold the drugs as evidence. The drugs are usually despatched by loosing off a couple of thousand rounds at the boat carrying them.
You could do similar with the boat people, stop the boat, take everyone off it and then sink the boat. Problems with that are
Navy vessels are no longer constructed with the facility to deal with large numbers of prisoners.
The traffickers will mingle with the 'cargo' and nobody will point them out in fear for their lives
The vessel is then tied up with these people for however long it takes to get them back to the country of origin
As we have seen time and time again the country of origin will in most cases not want them back so then you have the dilemma of what to do with them.
On the other hand if you are working with these countries to stop them paying to get out in the first place you don't need to worry so much about all of the above.
Not in Griffens argument there isn't. Si
Not in Griffens argument there isn't. Sink their boats then give them lifeboats? Eh? Won't they just carry on in their merry way, albeit a little more crampled? I knew the man was mad but this is like giving a man a suitcase to carry water in (a Milliganism)
I think that sinking the boats is a real
I think that sinking the boats is a really good idea.However how would you find the boats.How would you know which particular boat the people would be using.It would be awful if they sank a boat that was used for someones livelihood etc.
It would be awful if they sank a boat
It would be awful if they sank a boat that was used for someones livelihood etc.
I think you might find that people trafficking in these death trap boats is the livelihood of the traffickers..
Sinking boats is not a good idea, deal with the cause not the effect.
'Boats carrying migrants from Africa to
'Boats carrying migrants from Africa to Europe should be sunk to stop Europe being “swamped by the Third Worldâ€, British National Party leader Nick Griffin has said.'
I do hope this isn't part of Griffin's bid for number 10 - he'd win a landslide victory....
Yes but if they sank the boat the people
Yes but if they sank the boat the people couldnt use them then the trafficker wouldnt have a boat for his illegal business
Now lets just see you get out of that on
Now lets just see you get out of that one Mike R LOL!
Another of your winner topics here Tony! Ha Ha Ha!
I'm sure there is logic in there somewhe
I'm sure there is logic in there somewhere.
If Nigel Farage allows Griffin's racists
If Nigel Farage allows Griffin's racists to join the group, then UKIP is dead and buried.
UKIP's views on immigration and other is
UKIP's views on immigration and other issues are almost the same as the 'other party'.
UKIP is the alternative home for those who'd rather not openly be associated with the BNP. I honestly think the only reason Farage refuses to have anything to do with Griffin is that he's determined to stay on the EU gravytrain, rather than any political motive and thus doesn't want to alienate his gullible supporters.
Those concerned about the rise of the far right are completely missing the target by their continued attacks on the fringe BNP and their flash in the pan victory.
Serious members of UKIP will dump Farage the moment he ceases to be an attractive front man. It will then evolve into a far more potent force of the right that will crush the BNP once and for all.
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