Yesterday evening I met with controversial Stoke-on-Trent BNP Councillor Steven Batkin. I had wanted to discuss the photograph in which he had been pictured with three men who were giving a Nazi salute.
Nothing British about the BNP broke the story on their website on May the 5th. I managed to get in touch with Mr Batkin to ask him about the photograph and to give him the opportunity to respond to the reaction. He arranged to meet me at the BNP party office in Stoke’s Civic Centre.Cllr Batkin made some interesting statements during the interview.
When asked about his experience as being the first BNP Councillor in Stoke.
“It wasn’t very nice, all the existing parties, Labour Tory, Lib Dem and Independent, all ganged up on me”.
When asked about what drove him into politics Mr Batkin stated that he noticed changes in society whilst at work and it became obvious to him that..
“It was the Banking Industry that was running the Country and not Political Parties”
Commenting on BNP voters, and the impact of Multicultural society, Batkn told of BNP voters who had mixed race, family members.
” I get people say to me, We all voted BNP, and yet on their sideboard, they have photographs of their coloured grandchildren”
On immigration Batkin said,
” We need to stop any more immigration to make sure we don’t get a situation like the Balkans”
Mr Batkin then went on to talk about the National Fronts stance on repatriation;
” This concept of repatriation and turning the clock back, there’s no way it can happen in British history and if any one ever tried that, there’d be civil war.”
when questioned about the photograph in which he appears with men who are giving a Nazi Salute, he stated that;
“The people in the Photograph, although they are genuine patriotic people, I believe their strategy is wrong”
I asked him why he had appeared in the Photograph at all, he Said “It was a risk, which has certainly backfired on me”.
He also said that he didn’t think the men in the photo saw it as a Nazi salute but a “Fascist salute”.
When asked how people would feel about the photo, given that Britain lost thousands of people in WW2 fighting Fascism, he replied that he thought people “wont be very happy about it”
The photograph was supplied to the antifascist website Nothing British about the BNP by former BNP group leader Alby Walker. Walker recently left the party stating one of his reasons for leaving that there was a vein of Holocaust denial in the party. When Mr asked if he was a Holocaust denier, Mr Batkin had this to say.
” I’ve always believed about 300,000 people died in the Jewish holocaust, not 6 million.” “there’s no way , there was that many Jews in Europe at that time who could have sustained that amount of deaths.”
Mr Batkin serves as a School Governor in two Stoke on Trent Schools, Edensor Technical College and Mitchel High School.
A representative from Edensor High told BBC Midlands today that Mr Batkin should resign, not only from the board of Governors at Edensor, but from the city council. When asked if he would be stepping down from those positions in light of the controversy, Mr Batkin replied ” I expect left wing people to say that, they feel they need to impress the establishment, they are always on the lookout for more money, and if they can use the BNP or me personally to elevate their selves, the will do that.”
He said he wouldn’t be stepping down as it needed someone to speak out about the “birthrate of 1-5 yr old Muslims which has doubled”. He stated that this could “turn into a conflict at some point of culture and ideology”.
Pits n Pots warns anyone listening to this interview that they may be offended by some of views expressed by Cllr Batkin, particularly about the holocaust.
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