Will Alby Defeat The BNP Or Will The BNP Defeat Alby?

Theres only one interview!

If Mr Walker stands against the BNP it will probably split the nationalist vote which could let labour keep the seat....Therefore he obviously doesn't care for the electorate.

ALBY must be very stupid and naive if he think the voters will vote for him.

I see the National Front are standing too. Is there a PCF candidate? Come to think of it, perhaps Webb could stand as the LURPAK candidate so we can all have a good laugh.

Sounds the far-right are intent on defeating themselves with their own egotism. They all want to be leader which is why people like Walker and Pond have left to do their own thing.

Can't see the PCF fielding a candidate as I would think it unlikely that Pond, Cope and Tunstall could rustle up the deposit between them. The result would be deja vu if they did - that episode of Citizen Smith ring any bells?

When will the BNP's interview be uploaded?

It is utterly irrelevant how many candidates the far right field in this constituency.

Even based on their best result from 2005 the BNP would require a 678% increase in their number of votes to win the seat.

Guest, Tony said at just after 7pm that the site had a problem uploading the other interview. The people on this site do not get payed for there work, they do other things like earn money to live, enjoy life and sleep.
Now onto the story, it all now depends on what Labour now do, with Mark Fisher pulling out, personaly I think it clears the way for Mark Meredith as there PPC for Stoke Centrel. That Darby beats Walker, or Walker beats Darby is of little interest to most, myself included, who could not rightly give a stuff. But its going to be rather enteraning seeing then bicker and fight a in a three way slugfest with the NF for the biggets mark on the voteing slip. If I had to pick one, Alby Warker stands the best chance, local man, and lots of years service for the council, unlike Simon Darby, whats he bring, less the a years sirvice in Dudley wasn't it.

After Listening to both interviews I hope that Alby does well. As Mr Coleman said peopel are disillusioned with Party Politics and its better to have a good councillor who works hard and gets things done than for us all to start buying into false ideologies.

Lets face Mike Coleman was totally excited about his big push for 2011, He'd have done better to keep his cards close to his chest.

The way he said the BNP were going to change law and order, the man's clearly dreaming. If Labour and the Tories cant do it with all their experience, what makes him think that a bunch of barrack room lawyers can make any real effect? His Ideal of an all powerful BNP government is nothing more than a dream with ideals that can't be achieved without installing a totalitarian dictatorship.

I wonder why his associates get offended when they get referred to as Nazis?.......(cough).

Is it true that Alby has just been given a directorship, fat salary and a brand new car from a Stoke-based windows company? A firm that handles a large amount of contracts with various councils across the country?

While I don't for a moment accept Walkers pathetic excuse for leaving the BNP -we all know he took the money and ran! Yet the point he made is one that many in the BNP do (unlike him) have a genuine concern about. And that is that we want a clear statement from Nick about what he thinks the word 'Zionism' means, does he believe that there is a 'Zionist conspiracy.' And why does the party not take action against the Jew hate youtube channels like revisionist, BNPcrusade and the other Jew haters who either misuse the BNP name or are unofficial source channels for BNP videos mixed with 'anti-Zionist' material. Unless and until Nick deals with this issue the international and British Jew haters who swarm around the party like flies will have an excuse to groom new members and supporters on youtube comments or on forums to hate Jews and the party will remain in disgrace. Having said that anti-Semitism is rife in all parties and certainly across the Hamas supporting far left. The main British Jew hate party is now not the NF but the Lib dems.
The BNP's Israel policy is the best of any party in the Western world but it is that niggling doubt when Nick talks about the 'Zionist lobby' and the party refuses to take action against jew haters, particularly acting in their name that worries some. As to the existing people in the hirearchy with these opinions I think Alby is unfair, intellectuals and the educated are terrified to show support for the BNP least of all join and take part because they may lose jobs or social status and some senior people are simply currently irreplacable and most people are ok with that as long as they keep their opinions to themselves.

Albert walker has sold his soul. He has no honour. Regardless of how one might view his politics he has stabbed his one time colleagues in the back by now actively attacking them with his accusations.

I note that not content with the salary his new directorship brings, (part of the deal no doubt being he relinquish his ties with the nationalist cause), rather than go gracefully he chooses to attack the very people he was once presumably happy to lead. I find it rather strange that these concerns never bothered him in the past.

it is also by no means certain that he will be able to causally take over Abbey Hulton as an independent - there are many there who have always thoroughly disliked this person.

Who gives a fig, Simon Darbys reaction was Albys chances in getting elected 'are zero.' I say to Simon Darby, slighty better then yours them Simon, my ol'son.

THIS IS THE VOICE OF THE BNPPPPPPPP.
WE KNOW YOU CAN HEAR US ALBYYYYYYYY.
YOU HAVE SOLD YOU SOULLLLLLLLLLLLLL.
AND YOU MUST BE PUNISED......

Oh! my god, have you heard yourself you lot, get a god damned life will ya'. One word of dissent against the leadership of the BNP and the mans brought to the ground and kicked to death by the SS, now where have I seen that before.... Blazing Star..... hear we go, someone hiding under sillyass names once again, the intellectuals and educated terrified to show surport for the BNP, no mate, they are to educated to be suckered by a party whos sole purpose is to divide this nation. In saying that, are you also saying that you and you dear freand, whats his name, Bonglepled, Boogelpants- oh! F**k it, I give up- and this other idiot who will not even give a name, not even a sillyass one are in-fact un-educated.

Blazing star...Alby Walker has the right to do what he needs to do, he's disillusioned with the party fine, leave him be. He's states that he doesn't share the views of the part because there are those who have nazi like sympathies. This is only what many observers have been saying for years. I myself, wrote an article called the truth about the BNP last year that highlighted many of the true standpoints of BNP leaders.

Some people seem ready to forget all that stuff just because they say "stop immigration", or "British jobs for British workers" statements which don't actually man anything because they are unworkable...but sure, they sound good.

The B ran an article on What Mr Walker said
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/8579023.stm

I find it interesting that as we approach the election the BNP activists are now activating their accounts and commenting on every post. Also, I'm irritated by all these GUEST posters. One guest is much like another, at least take the time to register and give yourself a username.

Warren, as someone who normally writes with an honest and well balanced view, often taking the heat out of a discussion with an intelligent observation, that last post was quite beneath you.

Have you taken advantage of the 'three for £10' offer LOL!

There was a Children & Young People's Overview & Scrutiny Committee scheduled this morning:

http://www.moderngov.stoke.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=400&MId=3577

Out of all the councillors on this committee only TWO turned up! Mike Coleman - BNP & Ellie Walker - BNP.

Now I'm reluctant to apportion blame to councillors who may have completely legitimate reasons for not turning up, but I do despair a bit if only TWO turn up. My understanding is that there were some apologies but most had said they would attend. Could they really all have had a last minute crisis that prevented their attendance?

Two more councillors, not on this committee, turned up to observe. Steve Batkin - BNP & Phil Sandland - BNP.

Now there are BNP national policies that I really don't like, especially for example much of the education policy and the capital punishment. But at a practical local level, events like this do sometimes make you wonder if the BNP councillors are the ones we can best count on to take an interest and actually do some work.

The meeting this morning could not take place because it wasn't quorate.

Guest, yes I have, but not at that time of a Monday morning...lol. The post is half in jest, most can work out without my help that Mr. Darbys not going to make much head way in Stoke Centrel for the BNP, but Labour might like to sort themselfs out reather sharpish, or it may well by a belly dancing Tory stunnier climbing abort that train the the big smoke. I'll be honest hear, for Walker to say what he did, to say 'no, thats is, can't stand by a party that is so singel minded,' it rises him in my mind. Good luck to him, but I think the voters of Stoke Centrel need to know what he stands for now.
Nicky..... They really can be a bloody disgrace at times them councilors... who the hell should have been there, its like work, or should be, they are paid for there time, so its work. If you don't turn up at work, you have to have a bloody good reason, I'd like to know what some of there's was. Just to go to show no ill will, I thank the BNP members who pitched up for doing what every council member should do, put this city uppermost in there mind.
Mind you, just look at Westminster somedays,just go to BBC Parliament some afternoons, I mean Jesus, its like the Marie Celeste. You can't tell me they are all in committee meeting or doing other work. But good ol' Den Skinners there, representing the people who put him there. It don't matter what party you belong to, or what you believe in, represent the people who stuck you there and you cant go far wrong, if you don't, they have every right to give you the flick.

Why is Ellie Walker still a councillor for the BNP?

Also, Alby must be kicking himself for inviting Darby to stand in the GE and then offering his services as agent...or did that not happen, according to Darby?

I should imagine that Mrs Walker is too busy doing her job, to get caught up in all this. Which I for one commend. She must be under quote a bit of pressure at the moment.

Alby has done what he thinks is right. Regardless of what you think of it at least he has principles, which is a lot more than some mps or candidates. He doesn't agree with the party, so he left.

Nigel, I don't think for one moment we need to go down the Ellie and Alby road, Mrs, Walker still seems to want to be in the BNP, their life, is their life, and not for anyone to bring up.